This is a very complex question. There are three big parts to it: (1) a huge legacy fleet of aircraft with
components known to react badly to alcohols,
(2) pilots not trained to use the different fuels which really do
respond quite differently in so many ways,
and (3) an already-disruptive transition from low-aromatic higher-leaded
100/130 grade aviation gasoline to the high aromatic lower-leaded 100LL grade
of aviation gasoline. During that
transition to 100LL, many of the same
types of seal failures were seen as are seen converting to ethanol-containing
fuels.
With ethanol already in motor gasoline, usually at the 8-10% level, exposures have already occurred with reported
impacts that vary widely. This is for
the airplanes that can use the motor gasoline STC. That STC actually prohibits the use of
ethanol blends, which are now about all
that is available for motor gasoline.
Therefore, that
conversion is not so popular now, in
part because of the prohibition, and in
part because the problems encountered when “using the ethanol-containing motor
gasoline anyway”. These problems trace
to materials in common aviation use that are incompatible with ethanol. I have grouped them in the discussions below. For non-aviation items, see "An Update on Ethanol Fuel Use" dated 11-2-13.
See Update 9-26-16 at end of article.
See Update 9-26-16 at end of article.
Metals
Intergranular corrosion of aluminum alloys is worse with the
aluminum-copper Duralumins. These are
the primary structural materials in aircraft,
including aluminum tubing for fuel lines. That is why “wet-wing” tanks and aluminum
tube fuel lines need a surface coating to resist alcohol-induced
corrosion. Unfortunately, the Alodine process usually recommended for
these items requires their removal from the aircraft, a labor-intensive and expensive thing. This could be remedied by changes in
production for new aircraft, but the
legacy fleet is very large, and it has
changed little with the passage of decades.
You would be better-off using a compatible bladder-lined
tank, and Alodining just the aluminum
lines (which raises fuel bladder compatibility as discussed below).
Some of the steels exhibit some corrosion
sensitivities, too, but not nearly as bad as the Duralumins. The zinc casting alloys seem more sensitive
to steam than alcohol, as regards
intergranular corrosion.
Non-Duralumin aluminum casting materials for carburetors and
similar devices are less sensitive to these effects. These generally hold up rather well with
ethanol. I have several from air-cooled
engine cars that are just fine after years of calendar time, and hundreds of hours of operation, with E-85 ethanol.
Metering Devices and
Related Items
The real issue about fuel metering devices is twofold: (1) seals and (2) small passages. Seal compatibility is discussed below. There are potentially-serious problems with
small passages, whether the fuel is
gasoline, alcohol, or blends of them. When gasoline (motor or aviation) evaporates, it leaves behind a coating of gum and varnish
on the solid surfaces (motor gasoline is far worse, but both do it). These deposits can plug small passages, as anybody who has ever cleaned-out a “dirty
carburetor” on a car or lawnmower already knows. It can happen to aircraft metering devices, too.
The problem is slightly different when ethanol evaporates
inside a metering device. It leaves no
gum and varnish, and the corrosive
effects of direct liquid contact are not the bigger source of troubles. It is the ethanol vapor that attacks
the aluminum, leaving behind a fine gritty
aluminum oxide, and a low-density, “sticky-gooey” aluminum hydroxide gel-like
material. The grit is a really big wear
problem for any moving parts, and the
gooey gel plugs up the passage.
Oddly enough,
gasoline turns out to be a decent solvent for the ethanol-induced
deposits, and ethanol is a decent
solvent for the gum and varnish that gasoline leaves behind! That raises the hope that blends of the two
might behave better than either fuel “neat”,
but no one really knows.
The real point is that engines should not be parked without use for
months at a time, with
fuel in the fuel delivery system.
Bad things will happen with either fuel. If you know the engine will not be run for a
long time, the better choice is cut off
the fuel to it at the tank valve, and
drain the lines, pumps, and metering device dry. That’s true with any fuel, and therefore very good advice.
Composite Structural
Materials
The most common choices are epoxy- and polyester- or vinyl
ester-based materials. The choice of carbon
or glass fiber really isn’t the issue,
it is degradation of the matrix polymer that can lead to softening and
failure. Many epoxies are good with
gasoline wetting, so that one may build
a “wet wing” fuel tank with it. Some of
these are OK with ethanol, others are
not.
You have to “dunk test” a sample of your specific composite
material to find out. The softening of
the epoxy will show up in a couple of days to a week. The same is true of polyesters and vinyl
esters. You simply must check before
risking ethanol exposure (or gasoline for you homebuilders). If you must use ethanol, and you find your matrix is susceptible, then you must use a fuel bladder, and it had better not ever leak!
Sealing Materials and
Non-Metallic Components
Neoprene, ethylene
propylene, and Buna-S work well with
ethanol, just as they do with
gasoline. The fluorosilicones and the Vitons
are not compatible with ethanol. Nobody
knows for sure about the Buna-N materials.
These are all materials used in O-rings and similar seals, throughout the aviation fleet. The polysulfides often used as fuel tank
sealants don’t work with ethanol. (Some
of these same elastomer seal material problems cropped up with the transition
from 100/130 to 100LL, due to the high
aromatics content, which is also a
corrosive solvent.)
There are some nylons that react badly to ethanol by
swelling and weakening. Teflon is pretty
much impervious to everything. The
Nitrophyl and cork float materials are incompatible with ethanol, although polypropylene and polyethylene seem
suitable. All sorts of fuel
metering, filtering, and pumping is done with devices incorporating
these materials in their working parts.
Polyurethane (foam or otherwise) is not compatible with
ethanol. No one knows about the Acetal
polymers. These can be found in some
fuel tank gaging devices.
Fuel Bladders
Neoprene works,
polyurethane does not.
Polyurethane is by far the most common fuel tank bladder out there in
the aviation fleet. Very unfortunate for
those wishing to do an ethanol conversion!
Polar Solvent Effects
in Pumps
Once the incompatible shaft seal material fails in an
electric fuel pump, the fuel can leak
into the electric motor itself. Nonpolar
gasoline does not cause electrical arcing problems, polar ethanol does. Both are considerable fire hazards when
exposed to electric sparks. You
have to avoid this with the right seal material in the first place. The problem is the legacy fleet and the store
of parts that supports it: many or most of
these devices are not compatible with ethanol fuel.
Capacitative Fuel
Gaging Devices
These cannot work when the fuel is a polar solvent. Ethanol is polar, gasoline is nonpolar. Ethanol fuel doesn’t work at all with
capacitative gaging, and neither do
ethanol-containing blends.
Changes to Operating
Characteristics and Pilot Training
These depend upon how the conversion was done, and the nature of the fuel or blend to be
flown. I know about the characteristics
of some of the conversions, but not all
of them.
Cold start
“Neat” denatured ethanol meeting ASTM specification D-4806 “Fuel
Grade Ethanol” is 95% ethanol, 5%
gasoline or petroleum alkylate, and
under 0.5% water. It will not cold start
below about 50-60 F ambient temperature,
because the volatility is too low (very low vapor pressure, a high latent heat of evaporation, and essentially a constant boiling temperature
instead of distillation curve behavior).
To use it requires re-plumbing the engine start primer to a separate
canister containing some gasoline.
This separate start canister change can be avoided if the
fuel contains 15-or-more% gasoline instead of 5%, as in automotive E-85 and aviation
AGE-85. The automotive grade isn’t
really 85% ethanol in winter. It can be
as low as 70% ethanol, and is usually
about 75% ethanol, during winter, for
even better starting than “real E-85”. AGE-85
is specified to be 85% ethanol, 14%
gasoline, and 1% biodiesel.
Mixture
Control
The conversion of just about any aviation carburetor, and the Bendix RSA-5 series of injection
devices, leads inherently to a flex-fuel
system capable of metering all the intermediate blends. I honestly don’t know about conversions of
the other fuel injection systems.
For a carburetor, you
want sufficient flow capacity for ethanol in both the main jet and idle
systems, at otherwise the same air flow
pressure signals. Basically, the jets get bigger. Because it is an aviation carburetor, the pilot has (and is expected to use
effectively) a mixture control. It is a
change in the operation of this mixture control that the pilot will see; the rest appears unchanged to him.
The same thing is true for Bendix Airmotive RSA-5-based fuel
injection. You need to drill out the
idle valves slightly for greater idle flow capacity, and you use enlarged fuel injectors at the
cylinders, all at the same regulated fuel
line pressures as before.
When operating on ethanol with a properly-executed
conversion, “full rich” will be all the
way forward with the mixture control,
just like it was before. If you
pull it all the way lean, the engine
will die for lack of fuel, just like it
did before.
On gasoline,
however, “full rich” is only
about halfway forward. If you go all the
way forward, the engine will die from
overrich mixture. All the way back is
still lean-out, just as before. Only the sensitivity is different: a shorter travel of the control gets the full
effect. The risk is the lack of a
mechanical stop for “full rich”.
On intermediate blends,
“full rich” will be between those forward and halfway positions, more or less linearly proportional to the
blend. Mishandling the control can cause
the engine to die from overrich mixtures.
Greater pilot awareness of, and
a gut feel for, how the engine is
running is simply required. This
does take experience with engines; it
is not for the novice. But, it is not hard, and can be learned quickly.
Ethanol burns differently than gasoline (soot-free flame), and can be leaned far more aggressively than
gasoline. Blends fall somewhere in
between the “neat fuel” extremes.
With gasoline, you
need to enrich the mixture very slightly from the “perfect” mixture point in
order to control hardware temperatures and avoid engine damage risks. This usually takes the form of finding the peak
exhaust gas temperature, and then enriching
slightly to drop that exhaust gas temperature by some small margin, usually around 50 to 100 degrees F. You can just “peak” the sound of the
engine, and then bump the mixture
control a tad richer from there, and
achieve essentially the same result,
just not as repeatably. But it works just fine, all the same.
With ethanol,
hardware temperatures will be lower for the just about the same exhaust
gas temperatures. This is because of the
reduced heat load on engine parts from the adjacent flame, since there is little soot in the flame to
radiate. You can simply find the peak
exhaust gas temperature, or even just “peak”
the sound of the engine. Such mixtures
are nearer the excess-oxygen point, but
the hardware is running cooler, which
acts to offset the oxygen risk.
Fuel Samples
and Water Bottoms
With ethanol in the blend, you
will never see water bottoms, which is
completely at variance with all pilot experience operating on gasoline fuel. With ethanol in the blend, any such water bottom in the tank goes into
solution, right up to the phase
separation point.
If separation occurs,
the water and all the ethanol go into the bottom layer, being denser.
The now-dry hydrocarbon floats on top.
Any dye in the fuel goes with the hydrocarbon. It is easy to see the layers, even if both components are clear. But your typical tank bottom sample will be
clear with phase separation in the tank,
when the 100LL (or 100LL blend with ethanol) ought to be blue.
Very simply put, do not ever fly
with a phase-separated tank!
That boundary gets shaken up in flight,
so that you draw globules of one layer or the other, not the mixture, into
the engine. Power surges and possibly
detonation can result.
Unfortunately,
predicting that phase separation point is difficult at best. But there is a simple go/no-go field test. It uses the clear-tube fuel quantity gaging
tube that most aircraft now have.
Is My
Tank Separated As It Is?
If you gage a tank with the tube, you essentially take a “core sample” of the
fuel in the tank. Experience shows that
any separation boundary in the tank is preserved in the “core sample” taken
with the gaging tube. You can see
it. If you do, drain it down to one layer (the dry 100LL gasoline), and refuel on top of that. (If you are using automotive gasoline, drain it all and simply replace it with fresh
fuel. It has lost its ethanol content, which was a large part of its octane rating.)
Will
My Tank Separate Upon Refueling?
Your tank’s fuel blend may not be separated, but still might separate if you refuel on top
of it with one or the other fuels used neat.
There is a way to determine that risk,
which requires no knowledge of the blend proportions in your tank, or in the fuel that you will add. It does require than you can quantify the
number of gallons still in your tank and how many gallons you are about to add. In other words, you need to know the “calibration” of your
fuel quantity indicator.
Use your bottom sample and a sample of what you propose to
add, in the closest approximation to the
volume ratio that will obtain if you refuel.
Shake it up and watch it for separation for a couple of minutes. If your sample separates, so will your tank, so don’t refuel that way. Instead,
drain down and refuel with one fuel.
If it doesn’t separate, neither
will your refueled tank, so top off your
tank and fly on happy.
What
If the Fuel Is “Old”? Does It Get Too Wet?
It is particularly important to investigate whether your tank is
separated, and whether it will separate
upon refueling, if the aircraft has sat
idle for months with an ethanol blend in it.
Aircraft tanks are vented, and can accumulate moisture from the atmosphere
in the air space on top of the fuel, as
the tank “breathes” every 24-hour cycle.
(With straight gasoline, this is
where water bottoms come from.)
The so-called azeotrope mixture of straight ethanol fuel is
5% water. That is an unrealistic
upper bound for what a real vented tank can absorb, even over a very long period of time. More realistic results are 1-2% water after 6
months to a year sitting, even in the
very humid air along the Texas Gulf Coast.
I’ve never seen more than 2% water myself. It’s usually no more than 1% around Waco
McLennan County, even after a year
sitting. If the aircraft sits idle that
long, the really significant risks are
fuel evaporation deposits in the metering device as described above, not water absorbed in the fuel.
Putting straight 100LL on top of E-95 ethanol residuals with
2% water can indeed pose a refueling separation risk, sometimes.
Sometimes not, maybe quite often
not. The point is, you simply do not know. It depends upon how much fuel gets added
compared to how much is still in the tank and how wet that has become. That’s why the bottom sample prediction test
described just above is so important when operating with blends.
In the extensive experimental blend fuel work that I have
done with cars, blends near E-30 to E-40
typically require more than a 15-20% water addition to force a phase
separation. I typically use a 30-35%
water addition when I run the forced separation test checking blend strengths, just to make the test fully reliable. It’s pretty much the same behavior at E-10
levels, and at E-85 levels.
Power
and Economy
Different investigators report different outcomes from power
tests on ethanol versus gasoline. It
depends on whether you aggressively-lean with the ethanol, as discussed above. If you do,
the lower-compression engines may show around 5-10% better power and
efficiency on ethanol. The
higher-compression engines may show 10-20% better power and efficiency on
ethanol. But you must aggressively
lean, or you won’t see much of this
effect. Maybe none.
If you don’t aggressively lean and thus you don’t see the
power and efficiency improvement, then
your fuel flow rates will essentially match the volumetric heating value ratio
of the fuels. Heating value is
proportional to the ideal or stoichiometric air fuel ratio by mass, so for gasoline (14.5:1) versus ethanol (9:1), your ethanol flow rate will be about 14.5/9 =
1.61 times larger than your gasoline flow rate,
at otherwise the same power setting and conditions.
If you do aggressively lean the ethanol (and you safely
can), then for a power improvement of
10% at lower compression, you get an
ethanol/gasoline flow ratio near 14.5/(9*1.10) = 1.46. If you have a power increase of 20% at higher
compression, then the flow ratio is near
14.5/(9*1.2) = 1.34. That
sensitivity to leaning strategy is why different investigators using different
leaning strategies get such widely-varying results.
Blends are going to fall somewhere in-between, and quite probably not in a linear fashion
with blend ratio. The leaning
strategy also needs to vary with blend,
as there is more and more hardware-heating soot radiating in the
flame, as gasoline content
increases. To the best of my knowledge, those tests to optimize leaning strategy
with blend, have not been done. The risk is engine damage (usually burned
valves and seats) if you get it wrong.
It takes a while to incur the damage.
Fuel Density and Gross Weight
Gasoline (motor or aviation) is typically variable in
density, but usually about 6.1 to 6.2
lb/US gallon. E-85 is pretty close to
6.5 lb/US gallon, E-95 a little bit
denser still. That’s not much of a
density difference, and therefore not
much of a risk for gross weight, unless
you are already (or habitually) very near the maximum limit. Just use the tank volume and the higher blend
density to figure the higher fuel weight.
If that puts you over gross weight limits, then you offload a little cargo or fuel. Simple as that.
Concluding Comments
There’s enough risks and difficulties associated with using
ethanol or ethanol blends in the aviation fleet, that you probably don’t want to do this unless
you have some other compelling need.
The most difficult risks are materials compatibility problems. Corrosion can occur, and must be mitigated. Doing the conversion itself is not very
hard, nor is learning how to fly with
it.
Don’t do this at all if you have a capacitative fuel gaging
system. Period.
One of the biggest issues is fuel flow capacity, when ethanol requires substantially-higher flow
rates. Most of the time, you will simply have to convert gravity flow
systems to pump-fed systems. Just
up-sizing the fuel lines is nearly always inadequate by itself, although it still needs to be done, even with adding fuel pumps. The convenient time to Alodine the fuel lines
is when you up-size them, though.
You will have to select pumps and check valves with
ethanol-compatible seals, namely
neoprene. If you don’t pay close attention
to this, you will get into trouble later
when the seals leak, particularly in an electric
fuel pump. Check for neoprene
diaphragms and polypropylene plastic parts inside engine-driven fuel pumps, and inside carburetors or RSA-5 devices.
Teflon-lined fuel hoses on the engine are the best
choice, although neoprene or Buna-S
rubber is OK. Be sure any
fuel bladder is neoprene, not
polyurethane. You also need to
check the compatibility of the materials in your mechanical fuel quantity
indicator (see “horror story” below).
Be sure your fuel sample device is polypropylene. And be sure to acquire a tank-gaging sample
tube, especially if you intend to fly
blends.
The available STC’s are for either gasoline or ethanol, not blends.
To the best of my knowledge,
blends are still only allowed in experimental category. If you are experimental, you have more latitude to use automotive fuel
components, which are generally a lot
more ethanol-compatible these days. Experimental
guys therefore have it a little easier.
“Horror
Story” about Fuel Quantity Indicators
There are two structural transparency plastics: Lexan and Plexiglas. Both are acrylic plastics, just different manufacturers. Long-term liquid ethanol contact can cause
surface crazing in both of them (a web of tiny cracks). But,
they are both quickly and completely destroyed by warm ethanol vapor
contact.
When converting an old Piper “Pawnee” to use E-95 ethanol, I ran across a mechanical fuel gage under a
clear blister, which was also the vapor
collection space for the tank vent. This works fine with gasoline, but repeatedly failed in about half an hour
with ethanol on a nice warm day. The
blister literally collapses into a wadded-up mess. (It’s not a cheap item, either.)
That blister had an integral flange with drilled holes. It bolted directly to the airframe on top of
a paper gasket. I had to replace it with
glass, which you simply cannot bolt down
that way, and for which custom blown
parts are very, very expensive.
The solution was a steel base plate to which the ring lid of
a Mason jar was welded. A little
silicone adhesive on the threads of the Mason jar sealed it to the ring
lid. This worked, and is safe, as demonstrated by test to the FAA.
By putting the tailwheel in a chair to level the deck, we made paint marks on the jar as we filled
the tank. That way, we actually did end up with a more-accurate
fuel quantity indicator than the original, which was nothing but an inaccurately-positioned decal.
And that’s why there is a grocery store Mason jar in the STC
for using ethanol in a Piper Pawnee!
Update 11-4-13:
Taking into account my automotive, small engine, and aircraft experiences, I would assess things as follows:
The automotive industry has long adopted materials
compatible with high aromatic and ethanol content in gasoline. That plus flex-fuel cars has driven the
supporting parts industry in that direction for decades. As a result,
you can reliably use blends or convert to E-85, pretty much in anything from modern to very
old. And I do mean many decades old!
It appears to me that the 4-stroke small engine folks have
also largely made the transition to ethanol-compatible materials. I’m not so sure about the 2-stroke small
engine folks, and I have not run any stiff
blend experiments in 2-stroke because of my preconceptions regarding lubrication. E-10 seems to be OK in 2-stroke, though,
and based on that, I don’t have
much concern about E-15 (it’s just not that different).
I don’t think the boat motor folks have made the transition
to ethanol-compatible materials yet, not
even on the 4-stroke side of the house.
It’s boat motors and 2-stroke equipment that I hear the most horror
stories about. (I haven’t really
investigated this, so my perception is
only just that: a perception.) If there
was going to be a problem with water bottoms,
I would expect to see it in boats,
though.
The light aircraft industry is still using the same
materials they were using half a century (or more) ago. Many of these are not even good for
high-aromatic gasoline, not to mention
ethanol. Commercial aircraft are today nearly
all turbine, for which biodiesel content
in the jet fuel is proving to be a good fit (that’s a another whole topic area
not discussed here).
Bottom lines:
Automotive:
feel free to experiment with stiff blends and neat ethanol. The materials in common use for the last few
decades seem to support ethanol compatibility,
by and large. No mods necessary up
to about E-42, although I don’t
recommend over E-35 because of minor cold start problems. Conversions to straight E-85 are easy, but will be successful only if you do all 3
required items (mixture, timing, extra intake heat).
4-stroke small engine: feel free to experiment with stiff blends up
to E-35 without mods. I’d not recommend
neat ethanol or E-85 conversions,
because the carburetors do not have removable jets and are therefore so very
hard to modify. It’s very hard to change
the timing in a magneto ignition,
too. The supporting parts seem to
me to be largely ethanol-compatible in recent years.
2-stroke small engine: I personally would not experiment with stiff
blends in these, because of lubrication
fears (oil-in-fuel, with an oil solvent
also in the fuel?), and because the
supporting parts do not yet seem to be very ethanol-compatible. Wait till the supporting parts industry has
made the transition.
4-stroke boat:
you can try stiff blends in unmodified engines, but be aware that supporting parts may well
be incompatible with ethanol. You will
have to determine the neoprene/polypropylene issues for yourself. I’d rather wait until the supporting parts
industry has made the transition, before
I went above about E-15. If your parts
are compatible, up to E-35 should work
just fine.
2-stroke boat:
same as 2-stroke small engine,
and for the same reasons.
Gasoline airplane:
you need an otherwise-compelling reason to do ethanol blends and
conversions, and you will run into
incompatible materials and metal corrosion problems everywhere you look. But it can be done. And it does work.
Turbine aircraft:
out of scope here. Biodiesel
blends do work just fine, though.
Update 9-26-16:
From Biofuels Digest 9-25-16:
DOE Study
In Colorado, a study conducted by DOE’s National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), found that the petroleum components of ethanol-blended gasoline become degraded and unfit for use in an engine long before the ethanol portion takes up enough water to cause phase separation in the fuel tank. “Phase separation” occurs when an excessive amount of water is introduced into the fuel tank leading the ethanol and water to mix and sink to the bottom of the tank. In other words, gasoline becomes “stale” and unusable before water uptake by the ethanol component becomes a concern.
As part of the study, NREL scientists stored gasoline-ethanol blends ranging from E0 (0% ethanol) to E85 (83% ethanol) in actual lawn mower fuel tanks over several months in a climate-controlled chamber meant to replicate hot, humid environments like Houston and Orlando. The samples were tested at regular intervals for evidence of gasoline weathering and water uptake. In every case, the hydrocarbon components of the fuel became unfit for use in an engine before water uptake became a concern.
For gasoline-ethanol blends, it often took more than three months for phase separation to occur, meaning the fuel had already weathered to a point it was unusable. “In a small engine fuel tank in a constantly high-temperature, high-humidity environment, it takes three months or longer for E10 and other ethanol blends to take up enough water for phase separation,” the study found. “This confirms the statement by Mercury Marine that water uptake in E10 blends ‘…does not happen at a level or rate that is relevant.’”
President and CEO Bob Dinneen offered the following comments on the new study:
“Simply put, critics who continue to suggest E10 is a problem for small engines and boat motors are all wet. This research from NREL clearly demonstrates that gasoline goes bad long before the ethanol in the tank could cause any problems due to moisture uptake.
“Every manufacturer of small and off-road engines has approved the use of E10 in their equipment for many years. If owners of this equipment simply follow the manufacturers’ recommendations for fuel, maintenance, and winterization, they won’t have any issues at all. But, as this study shows, letting gasoline sit in your tank for extended periods of time is likely to cause some issues—irrespective of whether the gasoline contains ethanol or not.”
My take: the water problems that small engine and boat motor owners report are due to the item being left out in the rain, not the humidity. The fuel tank caps have air vents. The rain gets in that way. Plus, many folks are using fuel more than 3 months old. Both a recipes for bad performance and maintenance problems, even with zero ethanol in the fuel.
Hello and thanks for this incredibly concise posting. Although I'm not in the aviation field but rather hobbiest who enjoys composites I've been searching long and far for this type of information. Particularly the effect ethanol additives can have on composite fuel tanks. In my search I've gathered that buna-n is in fact a suitable barrier against ethanol solvation of resins. I've linked to a document that states buna-n resistance to denatured alcohol/ethyl alcohol, gasoline/ octane. http://www.warco.com/pdf/Rubber-Elastomer-Chemical-Resistance-Guide-by-TLARGI-and-WARCO-BILTRITE.pdf
ReplyDeleteRegards Andrew
Many thanks. Now we know Buna-N is "good" with ethanol. -- GW
ReplyDeleteBeing born and raised in Brazil, I ended up becoming quite used to ethanol as a motor fuel not just for aviation. Regarding cold-start ability, the only ethanol-certified aircraft here didn't evolve on that matter and still require an auxiliary gasoline tank, but most of the newer flexfuel cars got rid of this system by either featuring an electric pre-heating of the fuel at the injection rail or switching to direct injection.
ReplyDeleteDid you see the link I posted to the non-aviation fuel use? Bottom line of second paragraph. I use stiff blends in unmodified cars and lawn equipment today, and I still use E-85 in my farm tractor. -- GWJ
DeleteCold start is a little easier with E85, while in Brazil E96h is the standard.
DeleteOh, I quite agree. We found the same here: E-85 starts fairly well, even in winter, while E-95+ requires some sort of start canister or start fluid.
DeleteAirplane, car, 4-stroke garden equipment, makes no difference. A spark-ignition engine is a spark-ignition engine.
My only concerns about 2-stroke had to do with lube-in-fuel vs ethanol-as-solvent-for-oil effects. We seem to do OK here in the US at E-10-ish. -- GWJ
Castor oil is the way to go. Some old car collectors in Brazil are now using only castor oil in DKW cars due to the ethanol content in Brazilian gasoline. The only downside of castor oil is that it's reported to not be suitable with automatic lube systems, thus requiring the pre-mix.
DeleteHas anybody observed any gum deposits on parts in 2-stroke engines using castor oil in gasohol-as-fuel? That potential downside is listed as occurring in engines not overhauled very frequently. -- GWJ
DeleteIt doesn't seem to be so frequent, but it's mostly used either in classic/historic vehicles and specialized applications such as racing karts. At least those folks do care more about regular maintenance than the average Joe who would use a 2-stroke chainsaw only once in a year to cut firewood.
DeleteI have never seen any 2-stroke with gum or varnish deposits from castor oil.
DeleteI wasn't concerned about fuel systems because ethanol is one of the very best solvents for gum and varnish in them. I was worried about any gum formation in crankcases or inside cylinders or on rings. If that's no problem, and there's no loss of lubrication on bearing surfaces, then castor oil is very definitely the lube-in-fuel choice for gasohol-fueled 2-strokes of any type. Many thanks! -- GWJ
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